FabFilter User Forum
Surround Channel Order
I recently purchased (and love) the entire Suite of Fabfilter products.
Especially purchased for for the Multi-Channel Surround Capability in Pro-L2, Pro-Q3, and most importantly Pro-R2.
Awesome & sounds great!
I have only recently started delving into 5.1 & 7.1 Surround projects,
and I realize there is no One Industry Standard for Surround Channel Order, but is there any way to rearrange the Metering Display section of the plugin (and more importantly how Pro-R2 applies it's FX), so that it coincides with the Channel Line-Up that I'm working with?
In my case, I'm using the Dolby/DTSHD Standard for 7.1 (and my physical equipment monitoring):
L R C Lfe LssR LsrR
Yet the Pro-R2 Plugin channel order (and I assume how FX are applied) is:
L C R LssR LsrR Lfe.
For instance if I'm using the plugin on an 8 ch. (7.1) track/bus
(with C on 3 & Lfe on 4, etc.)
Isn't Pro-R2's algorithm applying FX for R on track/bus 3, and Ls on track/bus4?
And isn't Pro-R2 applying the FX for Lfe on my srR bus(8)?
If so, is there a way to change the applied FX (and the Meter Monitoring) Channel Order to correct this?
Hi Craig,
There currently is no possibility to re-route the channel order of a plug-in. What DAW are you working in? There are indeed multiple standards, but it should work out of the box in most hosts.
Thank you Ralph for your response!
I use and prefer REAPER.
After delving into it further, and individually testing to see which FX outputs are applied to which Track Channels, I found that the all Channels output correctly (to my L R C Lfe LssR LsrR setup). Amazing!
Even though the displayed Meter Channel Order is different (L C R LssR LsrR Lfe)(and the display order can't be changed), the Pro-R2 'Magically' figures out how to properly assign the outputs to my (L R C Lfe LssR LsrR) format.
PFM!
I read that some users are re-routing to correct the channel order to their desired format, but there's no need for that in my case.
I'm impressed!
All your FabFilter plugins Sound Great!
Why did I ever waste $$$ on anything else?!
Thank you!
Could someone please confirm this?
I'm using 7.1.2 setup and found that Pro-R 2 channel mapping is
L=1, C=2, R=3, Lfe=4, Ls=5, Rs=6, Lrs=7, Rrs=8, Ltm=9, Rtm=10
Whereas Dolby format is
L=1, R=2, C=3, Lfe=4, Ls=5, Rs=6, Lrs=7, Rrs=8, Ltm=9, Rtm=10
R and C swapped.
Hi YK,
Our plug-ins use the Film format, which are indeed LCR. The SMPT format uses LRC. However, if your host uses the SMPT layout instead of the film format the plug-in should automatically reroute the channels to their corresponding inputs.
Ralph, thank you for the confirmation!