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Pro-R restart via midi

I've been using Pro-R a ton lately in my productions and was wondering if it would be possible for the devs to implement a click free way to kill the current reverb tail instantly, allowing for a clean restart straight away. This would ideally be triggered by midi.

This would have a huge array of creative applications and it's been on my wishlist for reverb plugins as long as I can remember, it seems like it should be a fairly simple feature to implement but would love to hear what other people think of this.

Tim

Very cool idea !

Depending on the source, this could be achieved using a side-chained gate after Pro-R - setting the attack and release to minimum and using the "hold" for setting the length of the reverb, until it gets "killed" by the gate.

For example, a gated reverb on a snare should work perfect this way.

Nevertheless, what you're asking for really makes things much easier for these kind of things.

I do think it should be triggered by time (ms and tempo based), but I guess midi is also a cool option.

I'd be very glad to see something like this on Pro-R.

Cheers

Yroth

That's another cool technique but not exactly what I was getting at, I was hoping for a way to instantly kill the reverberation so it can start again cleanly straight away

Tim

Oh yes, That's also what I meant, maybe I didn't explain things well enough.

Anyhow, I think it's a great feature to be added !
I'm sure FF team will find the best way to pull this off ;)

Cheers

Yroth

Nah what you're suggesting is simply sidechain gating post reverb, which wouldn't stop the tail from ringing on within pro R.
Say I have a piano note playing and then after half a bar I have the same note playing an octave above, every time pro R receives a note on message I want to have the option to clear the current reverberation and instantly start a new reverb tail. In the case I just described this would mean that only one piano note is audible at any one time regardless of reverb time because the reverb is "reset" with each note on message it receives

Tim

To reset the audio in the reverb, you could quickly turn the Space knob to its minimum setting, and then back. That should be possible via MIDI.

You could argue that a MIDI 'all notes off' command should reset the reverb contents, but we would have to investigate the possible consequences of that, and see what other reverbs do in this case.

Cheers,

Frederik (FabFilter)

Hi Frederik, yeah that works to an extent but it's still not instant, and when you want to restart you have to wait for the reverb to decay otherwise the tail is "preserved" when the space knob comes back up, even when modulating the decay rate knob in tandem there's a definite tail that causes problems.

Great to see you're taking this into consideration anyway, would love to hear what the team thinks about practical feasibility etc. I agree all notes off would be an elegant way of doing it without being too intrusive to the ue.

Tim

Tim -
Well, as I said, it depends on the content.
In your specific case it might not work as well, but in other cases it can (when the reverb is shorter, for instance).

Just trying to help, though.

Cheers

Yroth

'Bypass host' works like a kill-switch in Pro-R, I just noticed.

If you could make a midi note-on to "double click" 'Bypass Host',as quick as possible, this should do the trick.
Just tried that with automation, worked perfectly.

Yroth

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